User talk:Zombiedude101

You've been temporarily blocked from editing for your edits to Security Cadet and Security Officer

Please don't copy/paste content from other sources without ensuring that it is permitted by the license. Also do not post content on the wiki which contains slurs or other content which violates Wizard's Den rules. Chief Engineer (talk) 16:33, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi Chief, to be clear some of it was content I had contributed to on the OLD shitsec rules but the rest I had pasted over from before. What slurs were in there? I did a ctrl + f and couldnt see anything that stood out, racial or otherwise. Zombiedude101 (talk) 18:29, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

iirc it contained uses of "retard" which WizDen considers a slur, I think it also contained things like references to ethnic cleansing. I understand that on /tg/ the page isn't actually intended to be followed, but not only do we have zero tolerance rules disallowing some of the content in it, players have gotten confused about the wiki in the past and cited what most SS13 players would understand as a clear joke as something that is intended to be followed.

The other issue with the edits was the copyright issue. The license that /tg/'s wiki uses isn't apparent to me, so I'm presuming that it just can't be copied, but if you can provide a link to a license then that'd change things. Having contributed to part of the list doesn't mean that you can copy the whole list over. If you wrote some of the list items entirely on your own, rather than modifying existing ones, then you likely would be able to copy that over even if it wouldn't normally be allowed to copy over content, but you'd need to be able to provide sufficient evidence that you were the person who actually created it for us to allow it. Chief Engineer (talk) 19:24, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

To be fair, I've just done some digging and it looks the current /tg/station Shitcurity article isn't even the original as the edits I made went back to 2011 - 2012, and likely it was plagiarised from across the varying wikis. Paradise, BeeStation and otherwise all have similar pages, so I don't think copyright is a concern here. I can't provide empiric proof, except that a chunk of the lines I contributed to. Some of them go back to a time where 'retard' wasn't really considered a slur so much as a casual insult, and while I get you don't want it, please don't jump on people for using it without giving them a chance to learn it's not acceptable first, as it can be quite a culture shock - I say this as someone who has dealt with actual abelist discrimination IRL too. As for the rule breaking - well I understand you probably don't want certain phrases being bandies about, but a common sense approach could've been taken - did it seem clear to you that my intent was to offend or cause problems? Could've easily removed the phrases and reminded me. I admittedly hadn't typed them out myself and just copied and pasted. Zero tolerance should not mean zero context or zero common sense. Next time, please keep that in mind. Having this of all things hold up the removal of my 'admitted to being underaged' ban for joking "im 12 what is this" in response for some weirod trying to ERP with me Zombiedude101 (talk) 13:15, 8 July 2024 (UTC)